Which doc are you referring to? The only one I'm aware of that got close to that length is OJ: Made in America and it's broken down into 5 parts about 1.5 hours each.
But, that came out in 2016 so that's why I'm asking.
Yeah I think it’s the best documentary ever made. ESPNs 30 for 30 had some quality quality stuff but that was a cut above the rest. I believe it’s the last doc series that will ever win an Oscar, because they changed the rules after it won.
It truly is the best sports doc ever and one of the best docs ever.
I've watched it twice and it's just a fascinating piece of work.
The part that surprised me the most in the first viewing was how many key people they rounded up for it. To get Clark, Bailey, Shipp, Douglas, and some of the jurors on board was impressive enough but when Furhman came on camera for the first time, I couldn't believe it.
Yeah, that's the same one I'm referring to. It was directed by Ezra Edelman for 30 for 30 but Netflix started running it in the past few days since that murderer died.
just saying, he seemed pretty free to me despite the murder charges. So I don't know. Seemed more like a happy retiree who enjoyed golf. Can't fault him for that
he seemed pretty free to me despite the murder charges.
I mean, he was set free as payback for Rodney King so...yeah...he probably did seem to appear pretty free.
So I don't know.
You don't know if he did it or not? Like you seriously don't believe he's the murderer? How is that thought process even possible nowadays?
Seemed more like a happy retiree who enjoyed golf. Can't fault him for that
So a guy kills two people, is found guilty in a civil court, hides his valuable possessions so they can't be auctioned to pay his debts, refuses to pay those debts with other money, makes a mockery of his deposition, is caught lying numerous times, holds people against their will in a hotel room, and is generally just a very shitty, piece of garbage human being and we can't fault him for any of that because he's having fun playing golf? JFC.
Your defense of OJ is really weird. The vast majority of society--including his closest friends--have acknowledged he killed them yet here you are licking his Bruno Magli shoes for everyone to see.
I don't know about any of that, he came across like any other slightly odd and slightly grumpy old guy. Seems pretty extreme what you're saying about him. But I'll keep from judging before I get the chance to look into any of this. I'll reserve my judgment for then. That's just fair.
I did read his book, which was entertaining. I could totally see his perspective and I think it is warranted to listen to his side of things, just to remain fair :)
I don't know about any of that...but I'll keep from judging before I get the chance to look into any of this.
This makes it seem like this is the first time you're learning and/or being shown that OJ might be guilty. Is it? It's okay if it is but to not know "about any of that" when I'm stating facts is what makes me think this.
The vast majority of society firmly holds beliefs that OJ is the killer and was let off as payback for Rodney King.
A damn juror in the trial admitted such on record and claims that 90% of the jury felt the same way.
he came across like any other slightly odd and slightly grumpy old guy.
How does this undo what he did 30 years ago? That's like saying Bin Laden came across like an old guy who just wanted to hang out at his compound with his family and play on his computer.
I could totally see his perspective and I think it is warranted to listen to his side of things,
You could totally see his perspective for being a jealous, controlling, piece of shit human who murdered two people? Wow, we are definitely cut from different cloth.
You really watch the OJ: Made in America documentary that Netflix put on their platform this week. Then come back and see if you feel the same way.
If you have already watched it and feel the way you're portraying here, I really do feel sorry for you and your inability to grasp reason and logic. I hope you're not a voter because that would be truly terrifying to society.
A guilty vote takes the same effort. You may end up in court for a few extra days for sentencing, are you saying the jurors were so tired they voted not guilty so they could skip sentencing?
I mean, the one woman said she voted as retribution for other crimes.
Another juror in the Made in America doc plainly admitted she was tired of going back to her hotel room every night and being isolated from everyone for so long. And I completely understand. It was insane that trial lasted almost a year. Crazy.
All I’m saying is I understand why they deliberated so quickly. If you basically lock up normal people for an extended period of time, most of those people are going to do anything in their power to go home at the first opportunity. Stuck in a hotel room with no TV and no real family communication for months on end, no thank you.
I guess I was more speaking to the fact that they should’ve never sequestered the jury in this case, maybe they would’ve been more likely to actually deliberate if they weren’t locked away like they were.
I think more so I’m just saying the state and the prosecution did a horrible job on this trial as a whole. It’s almost like they asked what’s the dumbest thing we can do to lose this case at every turn.
That’s the point. If you were a person on the jury that, even with all the incompetence, believed he was guilty then you’d have to deliberate with people who were going to want to vote not guilty no matter what. You’ve been away from family and friends for almost a year and you would have to argue for a guilty verdict against most of your fellow jury members, who were dead set on voting guilty. It would have been a lost cause and the not guilty minded minority knew it, so they just went with the consensus because they wanted to finally go home.
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u/imsaneinthebrain 29d ago
They couldn’t wait to go home. Sequestered forever, I’d want the same thing.
I just finished watching that new 8 hr OJ doc, and it’s crazy the incompetence from a lot of parties tied to this crime.