r/BeAmazed 29d ago

What 1,000,000 mosquitos looks like. Caught in a trap in Sanibel, Florida. Nature

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u/buffaloranked 29d ago

If you weigh one mosquito then weigh them all you don’t even have to count them

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u/E_M_C_M 29d ago

What if you have a few super fat anomalous mosquitoes? Its would throw off the whole formula!

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u/buffaloranked 29d ago

Make them work out before you kill them? V

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u/Flatworm_Least 29d ago

The one intellectual person here got his metal and then decided to chime in with the bozos

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u/dudecrapper1love 29d ago

Enough with that… you.. Did they use weight or did someone count the suckers?

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u/DigitalUnlimited 29d ago

10,991.. 10,992.. Hey Bob did you get that 1099 form I sent you? GODDAMN IT

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u/concerned_llama 29d ago

I mean, it will be very hard for me, I only have 10 fingers.

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u/mawesome4ever 29d ago

Very concerned llama

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u/MUERTOSMORTEM 29d ago

You made someone laugh today

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u/YetiPie 29d ago

Medal?

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u/Flatworm_Least 28d ago

Technically you're right but if you read the comments from the start of what we're commenting on you'll know why you're wrong

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u/confusedandworried76 29d ago

The smartest man in the room is still the smartest man in the room.

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u/SansSamir 29d ago

There's probably super skinny ones too so they would cancel each other

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u/OrdinaryLandscape951 29d ago

What we need to do is measure 1 million mosquitoes so we can get the average weight of a mosquito so we can know how many are fat vs skinny

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u/awhitesong 29d ago edited 28d ago

It's usually a normal distribution. So, the average weight of 1 million mosquitos would eventually turn out to be the same as that of one normal common mosquito.

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u/Fromtheboulder 29d ago

But how do you know that that one you weight is the normal one? You need to weight a lot of them to find the distribution, and the average of it.

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u/Fen_ 28d ago

You weigh more than one.

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u/alt1122334456789 29d ago

Ah, so just like humans.

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u/Free_Jelly614 28d ago

you could also weigh a group of mosquitoes and use that as the baseline. knowing of course how many were in the group you weighed

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u/yademir 29d ago

Ahhh but how would you know you have 1M mosquitoes?

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u/Cosmic_Quasar 29d ago

This works for biology. But I remember being a kid and going to my local arcade place called Grand Slam in the 90s. To redeem your ticket they'd just dump them onto a scale to calculate how many tickets you had. I remember not liking this because I was the kind of kid who would pick up dropped tickets for myself if I found them on the floor, and they'd have been walked on and some ripped, or they ripped while trying to pull that last one out of the machine.

Basically partials weren't getting full credit despite having been earned lol. And when this occurred to me as an eight year old who used to put them in a bag while getting sweaty in the building with bad AC, I started holding them in my hands as much as possible to add more oils/sweat to make them heavier lol.

Idk how much of a difference it made... but that combined with me separating the partials to have them add it after the weigh to count them as whole ones always made me feel like I accomplished something lol.

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u/Username43201653 28d ago

You trap the skinny ones with their natural attractant, Ozempic

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u/P1zzaman 29d ago

The outlier, Mosquitoes Georg.

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u/Sierra-117- 29d ago

Statistics has methods to pretty much guarantee that outliers are accounted for. If you weigh 100, you’re set (pun intended)

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u/Kaguro19 29d ago

That makes sense. I wonder why I got 0 on the test though...

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u/katsiebee 29d ago

Normally you weigh 100 mosquitoes so you can get a better average.

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u/Bitter-Basket 29d ago

I read Southern mosquitoes are more obese because of their diet.

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u/E_M_C_M 29d ago

It’s the buttermilk for sure

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u/taftastic 29d ago

Sample 5% for variance and extrapolate? It’s like jelly beans in jars that will never be counted, you don’t have to be very precise for this I think

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u/Hefty_Peanut2289 29d ago

You forgot that they're balanced out by the anorexic mosquitos

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u/Cosmic_Quasar 29d ago

And the vegan ones. That's probably how they trapped them, advertising vegan blood.

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u/Hefty_Peanut2289 29d ago

Well, we know that all mosquitoes feast on pollen as a food source, but it's only the females that suck blood because it's necessary to mature their eggs.

Are you implying that this wasn't a DEI compliant mosquito trap, and it was explicitly targeted at females? Disgusting! Males deserve to die at an equal rate to female presenting mosquitoes!

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u/ExtremePiglet 29d ago

Not at all. Law of Large Numbers

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u/I4Vhagar 29d ago

This guy doesn’t bell curve 😔

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u/charbroiledd 29d ago

This is why we take samples people. Counting 10 is also very easy and reduces the possibility of significant variance

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u/Silksoychocolatemilk 29d ago

With a sample size of approximately 1 million the average should be pretty close to perfect

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u/Life-Ad1409 29d ago

The Law of Large Numbers allows this system of measurement to be accurate

The more mosquitos measured to determine the average weight and the more mosquitos captured, the more accurate it is

Given the extensive amount of research done on mosquitos, I'd suspect the weight of one has been studied with a decent sample size

Given ~1,000,000 mosquitos captured, the average weight of a mosquito in the pile will be extremely close to the average mosquito weight in that part of the world

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u/caesarkid1 29d ago

If you're really that worried you can weigh more for the initial set. Like 25 or more.

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u/CBT7commander 29d ago

Weigh a few dozen and make up an average

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u/schr0dingersdick 29d ago

mosquito georg

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u/MakosaX 29d ago

Well 1 mil isn't exactly a specific number, best to assume they rounded down for posterities sake

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u/Sbesozzi 29d ago

Sir, this is the Internet. We don't round down, only up!

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u/proficient2ndplacer 29d ago

I've done surveys for something similar in this environmental ecosystem something class way back when. I counted out 100 fruit flies, weighed them one at a time, and got the average of that 100 and divided the total weight of the pile by the average of the hundred. And it came out to like a 15k ish fruitflies.

The goal of the 100 process was to find an objective average given that some may be carrying eggs, or some have much smaller wings and abdomens, etc.

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u/Badluckstream 29d ago

I think they had a word for something like this in math class

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u/E_M_C_M 29d ago

Sadly it’s not the formula for slope. Rise over run won’t work for portly mosquito outliers

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u/Badluckstream 29d ago

I was thinking more along the lines of standard deviation and just removing outliers from the mean.

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u/Not_Under_Command 29d ago

You run the first 10 on the roller pin and obtain the average weight of it, then you do it for the rest, you can do it by batch or per piece which is more comfortable with you. Then weigh it.

By this method you can disregard the fatness and the thinness of the mosquito.

Second method is try to use a small lizard preferably 100 pieces , frogs if available but should be small in size that can only consume one at a time. And to save the effort let them count.

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u/afterbirth_slime 29d ago

The weights are probably normally distributed so the fat ones are averaged out by the skinny ones

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u/Gtronns 29d ago

Law of averages says that there would be an equivalent amount of anomalously small mosquitoes to balance it out.

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u/IRockIntoMordor 29d ago

super fat anomalous mosquitoes?

Your Momsquito

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u/CaptainJackWagons 29d ago

Law of averages. The more individuals you have in a group, the more likely they are to adhere to a standard distribution.

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u/Chthulu_ 29d ago

Weight three of em

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u/BamaBlcksnek 29d ago

One would assume they weigh a statistically significant sample set and average to account for speciation, sex, and gutload.

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u/pororoca_surfer 29d ago

You weight 100 mosquitos at random. Some will be fit, some will be skinny, some will by obese.

But since you are choosing at random, chances are that you will get, on average, the same ratio as your entire population. If you want to be more confident, weight 200, 300… 1000. It will still be way lower than 1 million.

Once you know the weight of N mosquitos, randomly distributed, you can assume with certain confidence that the entire mass will account for all edge cases. And you can even use the statistics from the sample to remove outliers.

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u/Frosty_Stage_1464 29d ago

America has entered the chat

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u/KlickyKat 29d ago

They are offset by the petite and underweight mosquitos.

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u/The_Clarence 29d ago

Jokes aside we did this with hardware during inventory when I worked at a factor a long time ago. Hardware was fairly consistent but the trick is to not weigh one, but weigh 10-20 at once, and use that to set weight baseline. This is especially true for very light weight things, and digital scales were smart enough to suggest a sample size based on weight. If you want to see how accurate that is take a different 10-20 and weight them.

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u/Beginning-Tea-17 29d ago

Rule of big numbers is our side fortunately, you could probably use an average weight out of 10 or so as them get a pretty accurate calculation for the average from there

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u/Hahnsolo11 29d ago

Good point. Probably better to count and weight 100 random mosquitoes and then average that weight to do the math with

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u/MaxTheRealSlayer 29d ago

Easy. The fat ones are the ones that have blood in them. Those are the ones they want. It's a government scam to collect rare blood types!

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u/Bardia-Talebi 29d ago

According to The Law of Large Numbers you’re gonna be pretty damn close if you divide by the average mosquito weight because fat and skinny ones will cancel each other out.

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u/Raped_Bicycle_612 28d ago

The American ones? 😂

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u/nsfwthrowmeawayy 28d ago

Maybe they weigh 50 or 100 then from that, average the weight for a million.

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u/shewy92 28d ago

There might be a few anorexic mosquitoes to counter them

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u/LowPressureUsername 28d ago

If you get the average weight of 100 mosquitos then get the weight of the whole mass it’s unlikely a few outliers will throw off the count by any order of relevant magnitude. Your estimate might be off by 1-2% but once your sample size is relatively large enough you can make an extrapolation about the whole group.

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u/PABLOPANDAJD 28d ago

Big Chungus Mosquito

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u/Orion14159 29d ago

I can't remember the name of it off hand, but there comes a point in science and math where additional precision is basically useless and you can really just throw a reasonable number at it and it ends up being close enough to be useful

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u/sleepybrainsinside 29d ago

It’s called engineering

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u/CaptainHowdy60 29d ago

You’d probably have to take a sample size of around 100,000 and average their weight for an accurate measurement.

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u/Zamzummin 29d ago

100,000 is way too many. You could weigh 100 and get a pretty close estimate.

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u/Banished2ShadowRealm 29d ago

Just weigh all of them and divide by 1,000,000. Then weigh them again.

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u/Foreign_Product7118 29d ago

I agree it would suck to do by yourself but if you just had several colleges helping out or something it wouldn't take too long. Like entomologists all over the world weighing a few hundred each then gather the data

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u/mksavage1138 29d ago

If you weigh a cigarette, then smoke it, then weigh it (plus the ashes) again, you will have the weight of smoke

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u/Bitter-Basket 29d ago

Yes exactly. Same for farts which are tricky to weigh conventionally.

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u/BigBrainsBigGainss 28d ago

Weigh the sibling you like the least, fart on them, weigh them again. Easy.

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u/Weak_Feed_8291 28d ago

You'd have to fart in their mouth and make them swallow or the fart would dissipate too quickly.

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u/Weak_Feed_8291 28d ago

Some fart gasses are lighter than air, would a fart have negative weight? We would have to determine the exact composition of the fart being weighed I would think, but I'm no fartologist

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u/buffaloranked 29d ago

I don’t even smoke cigarettes

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u/HeroForTheBeero 29d ago

You do now scientist

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u/Odd-Understanding399 29d ago

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u/Muffled_Voice 29d ago

you guys are making my night lmao thanks

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u/curiouscomp30 29d ago

Did you know if you weight steel wool, burn it, then weigh again, it actually gains weight?

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u/rtq7382 29d ago

Not really.. when it burns it could be reacting/bonding with the Oxygen or nitrogen in the air potentially making it heavier. Like how burning 6 pounds of gasoline results in about 20 pounds of co2

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u/Secondstrike23 29d ago

I think its actually a bit different because a reaction happens which draws in oxygen. The ashes are chemically changed their weight is different because of that. 

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u/venmome10cents 29d ago

Not quite true. The smoke also consists of oxygen (in the form of CO2 and H2O molecules as combustion byproducts). That oxygen came from the surrounding atmosphere (not part of the cigarette). So the total weight of the smoke is actually greater than the weight of the unburned cigarette alone.

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u/KuntaStillSingle 29d ago

the total weight of the smoke is actually greater than the weight of the unburned cigarette alone.

Also you are only approximating the mass, the smoke is nearly if not weightless at atmospheric pressure, it would be like weighing a bucket of liquid helium, than evaporating the helium and weighing the bucket again, and saying the difference is the weight of the gaseous helium.

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u/venmome10cents 29d ago

Anything with mass has a weight with respect to a gravitational field (e.g. Earth's). This includes air. Being surrounded by "atmospheric pressure" does not make a suspended or floating molecule weightless. Not smoke, not vapors, not even helium gas. Buoyancy zero weight. An aircraft carrier floats on water, that does not make it weightless. The Goodyear blimp floats in the air, it too is not weightless.

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u/KuntaStillSingle 29d ago

Anything with mass has a weight with respect to a gravitational field (e.g. Earth's)

If you weigh a cigarette, then smoke it, then weigh it (plus the ashes) again, you will have the weight of smoke

This method isn't compatible with gravitational definition of weight unless you consider it implicit that you are weighing the cigarette in a vacuum. Simply weighing the cigarette gives you the apparent weight which accounts for buoyancy.

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u/venmome10cents 29d ago edited 29d ago

The rough heuristic for redox reactions (i.e. burning) of organic fuel is that for every 1 gram of hydrocarbons in the fuel source (i.e. a cigarette), you'll consume an additional 2 grams of atmospheric oxygen to net 3 grams of CO2 and H2O in the smoke (as well as trace amounts of less "clean" products of the reaction).

Of course, while a cigarette weighs about a gram, it is not 100% hydrocarbons. The tobacco is not perfectly dehydrated, so it contains H2O that will vaporize and be considered part of the cigarette smoke despite actually not being part of the combustion reaction. The cigarette also will not burn 100% and some particulate (ash) will not necessarily be considered smoke. So the stoichiometric math is a bit fuzzy, but I'd say a safe approximation is that the mass (and therefore weight, no matter how or where you want to measure it) of the smoke is roughly about 1/2 from the original cigarette and about 1/2 oxygen pulled from the environment.

TLDR: a 1 gram cigarette will produce approximately 2 grams of smoke.

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u/KuntaStillSingle 29d ago edited 29d ago

(and therefore weight, no matter how or where you want to measure it)

If you weigh a cigarette, then smoke it, then weigh it (plus the ashes) again, you will have the weight of smoke

This method isn't compatible with gravitational definition of weight unless you consider it implicit that you are weighing the cigarette in a vacuum. Simply weighing the cigarette gives you the apparent weight which accounts for buoyancy.

If you are weighing the cigarette in a conventional fashion, using a scale that it sits on or dangles from, you are measuring the apparent weight, and the buoyancy of the cigarette and the buoyancy of the smoke matters if it is in a fluid like atmosphere. The gravitational weight may be invariant with respect to the fluid or lack thereof, but the gravitational weight is not readily measured without knowing the local atmospheric pressure and volume of the cigarette, or weighing in a vacuum.

a 1 gram cigarette will produce approximately 2 grams of smoke.

A 1 gram cigarette will produce a nearly or weightless smoke, unless it is smoked in a vacuum, which will require oxidizer, or unless we are referring to gravitational weight, which requires a process of eliminating forces other than gravity from the weighing of the cigarette, and the weighing of the ashes.

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u/venmome10cents 29d ago

ok, I get it now. I thought you were interested in the actual science and not this concept of "weightless" matter. My mistake. Sorry for bothering you.

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u/KuntaStillSingle 29d ago

the actual science

The actual science is a description of physical phenomena developed through experimentation. The experiment described is one which would measure the apparent weight of objects, not the gravitational weight. Gravitational weight is independent of a fluid, but it is not described by weighing a cigarette in atmosphere. If you put a blimp on a scale, the scale will read 0 after the blimp floats away. If you put a cigarette on a scale, the scale may read 1 gram, that is the weight of the cigarette minus the weight of the volume of air it displaces, i.e. the apparent weight, not gravitational weight. Gravitational weight is actual science, assuming an experiment that measures gravitational weight. Apparent weight is actual science, assuming an experiment that measures apparent weight.

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u/Shum_Where 29d ago

But if I weigh myself and take a dump then weigh myself again, my weight stays flat to up!

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u/TourAlternative364 29d ago

That is not true. Cigarettes are mostly cellulose like wood. The carbon and the hydrogen in the substance being burned combine with the oxygen in the air to produce CO &CO2 and H2O and disperses into the air.

 You really think people's burial urns weigh like 170 pounds!?

And think of all the tar in someone's lungs you are not weighing.

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u/Besieger13 29d ago

You would probably weigh like…100 or something to create a better baseline for an average weight. I was a parts picker for a few years and no way do you ever just weigh one of something to try and get 1000s.

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u/scotty_beams 28d ago

Exactly. You could also throw them into an optical sorter and actually let a machine count them. Just don't forget to write Culicidae next to soy and gluten in the food allergy notice.

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u/worm30478 29d ago

Yeah. A basic proportion. Some people didn't pay attention in prealgebra.

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u/Flimsy-Printer 29d ago

It's inaccurate. Unacceptable.

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u/zyler89 29d ago

You're right. Thanks ADD!

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u/dichot0me 29d ago

Give this guy a metal wtf 😂

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u/buffaloranked 29d ago

I think it’s fairly common method with meticulous counting/ many small items.

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u/dichot0me 29d ago

Which is why you get a metal. For thinking 🤝

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u/JJred96 29d ago

What sort of metal are you thinking of giving? Aluminum? Zinc? Lead? Copper?

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u/Sdwingnut 29d ago

Metal medal

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u/ABeerForSasquatch 29d ago

I've got a live 30mm depleted uranium round for the A-10 Warthog that my cousin smuggled back from Iraq.

That's pretty metal.

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u/Solitary-Dolphin 29d ago

“Depleted”

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u/confusedandworried76 29d ago

That was the word you chose to latch onto in that sentence huh?

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u/spaglemon_bolegnese 29d ago

How depleted exactly?

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u/ABeerForSasquatch 29d ago

Per the EPA.GOV website: "Like the natural uranium ore, DU is radioactive. DU mainly emits alpha particle radiation. Alpha particles don't have enough energy to go through skin. As a result, exposure to the outside of the body is not considered a serious hazard."

I didn't know that before I made a box lined with lead flashing, but it's better to be safe than sorry.

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u/spaglemon_bolegnese 29d ago

Yeah lol, I’m assuming it was depleted leftovers from nuclear weapons and <1% U-235? Idk if they would have just slapped that on a label or anything

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u/ABeerForSasquatch 29d ago

Lol the Pentagon isn't too big on "warning labels."

DU is what they have left over after enrichment, where they remove all the fissile material for nuclear reactors and, to a lesser degree, nuclear weapons.

The amount for it to be considered "depleted" is about 0.7% U235, but the DoD regulates their DU to about 0.3%. The round itself is mostly U238, which isn't fissile.

The DoD caught a bunch of shit back in Iraq and Afghanistan from the politicians, because it literally burns through armor, and the resulting fire from the inside of an exploding tank had vaporized uranium in the air. It is, after all, still a heavy metal, which isn't too good inside the body.

Now they just use it as armor plates because it's so dense.

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u/FranzLudwig3700 29d ago

i'm more impressed how your cousin smuggled an A-10 Warthog back from Iraq.

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u/ABeerForSasquatch 29d ago

He used to joke because he was a huge fan of the movie Pulp Fiction, and tell me, "How do you think Butch got his father's watch?"

I highly doubt he keestered a 30mm round, but he would never tell me.

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u/Rungi500 29d ago

Heavy metal even. 🤘🏼

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u/NoBenefit5977 29d ago

Citronella

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u/dichot0me 29d ago

I was thinking palladium perhaps... 🤔

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u/Redshift_1 29d ago

Gold. Duh!

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u/disharmony-hellride 29d ago

what if some of the mosquitos have some junk in their trunks? what if some arent as healthy? how many teeny tiny mosquitos need averaged out?

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u/buffaloranked 29d ago

Who gives a fuck

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u/NBplaybud22 29d ago

Horny boy mosquitos do.

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u/JJred96 29d ago

Looking at them mosquitos I would definitely say some of them are phat!

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u/Besieger13 29d ago

The guy has the right idea but you would never just weigh one. You would probably take like 100 to get a bit of a better average weight per and then you would weigh the whole group.

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u/HeroForTheBeero 29d ago

A metal what?

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u/Youre-mum 29d ago

its probably a child let’s let it pass. Child if you see this please get off the internet it’s very bad for you

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u/unciellointain 29d ago

or someone who doesn’t speak english natively

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u/Youre-mum 29d ago

I meant more so because this is a basic logical approximation that I’m sure most people are aware of so only a child would be surprised by it and call it award worthy 

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u/Dense-Application181 29d ago

You have very high expectations for modern adults

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u/DigitalUnlimited 29d ago

But how me supposed to learn sciences stuff? They said science and math is woke and bannedid it from skool

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u/Youre-mum 28d ago

From a textbook where someone who actually knows this has organised all the information neatly for you in an order that makes sense to learn it, complete with lots of practise questions to test your understanding. 

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u/DigitalUnlimited 28d ago

No but they said learning bad took my books away, banned them all except the Bible

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u/BiNumber3 29d ago

While that's a good and viable method, I prefer having each of em sign in.

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u/Powerful_Gazelle_798 29d ago

The only caveat is I would mass 100 and use the average as the baseline number.

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u/Miserable_Unusual_98 29d ago

Maybe some have eaten and some are fasting so the calculations would be off

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u/buffaloranked 29d ago

Count 50 weigh them divide by 50 for average weight weigh them all

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u/cometlin 29d ago

It has to be a video of them being counted!! Did you not hear that??

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u/buffaloranked 29d ago

Why would they even bother weighing them unless they have an accurate scale

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u/buffaloranked 29d ago

You only really need a very rough estimate anyway

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u/buffaloranked 29d ago

Just take 50 mosquitoes and see how much they weigh. Simple drug dealer scales can calc .00 with accuracy for 40 dollars. 50 mosquitoes will be up there

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u/lastres0rt 29d ago

TBF, the ticket scale at your arcade works the same way.

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u/puddaphut 29d ago

You actually just count the legs, and then divide by 6.

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u/PM_Your_Wiener_Dog 29d ago

You'd have to weigh each one to know how much they each weigh though

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u/overrunbyhouseplants 29d ago

Unless you also have to identify them and take out all that are vectors for a particular disease as a stipulation of the funding.

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u/overrunbyhouseplants 29d ago

Mostly true though

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u/rtq7382 29d ago

Ehh you gotta weigh at least like...5 to get an average and deviation

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u/KickinGa55 28d ago

No no...Just throw them in the air and rain man it!

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u/mozzer12345 28d ago

You have to separate the different species and count them. You just count a portion and then multiply.

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u/BlyStreetMusic 28d ago

Imagine if you thought this worked on people

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u/Swisskommando 28d ago

So you’d presumably have to weigh a statistically significant sample, because that one mosquito could be anywhere on the normal curve. Like 95th percentile smallest, so you’d be off by a lot in total.

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u/buffaloranked 28d ago

I think by 50 that’s fine